Our leaders have everything in hand.
Pah! Need? What need? These mosques pose absolutely no threat to Germany! Why would you suggest a silly thing like that?
Well there is the fact that "A recent report by public broadcaster ARD found that the Islam preached in some mosques is more conservative than in many Muslim countries." Sounds a lot like Sweden (and almost certainly the rest of Europe) doesn't it? When the article states that the Islam preached is "more conservative" what it really means is that such mosques are preaching plain old, pure, historical, orthodox, mainstream Islam according to the books of Sharia, the life of Muhammad, the Qur'an and the Sunna. That is to say simple Islam.
Would you like to see how a moderate, democratic Muslim country deals with issues arising from Sharia?
Surely Malaysia has the issue sussed - surely they have managed to deal with Sharia and now provide a time tested model for us in the West to follow. Right?
You know by now I'm setting you up.
The following article from Jihad Watch should demonstrate to us all how resistant to reason and facts Sharia is. It's important to note that:~
1) The two MPs mentioned in the article advocating an amendment to the law to protect children from child marriages are both ladies - one appears to be a Chinese, possibly Christian background - however we should note that the other lady is most definitely a fine Muslim woman. So, again, not all Muslims agree with barbarous Sharia law;
2) the man advocating that rapists marry their victims and that young girls can be married was an esteemed judge in a Sharia court. We are told ad nauseum that Islam is the most just way of life for women and that it gives great dignity to them. How is it this Qadi is not aware of this?;
3) the ladies' amendment was soundly defeated by a voice vote. This should show us how the authority of Islam's teaching on these matters overwhelms what we would consider mere human decency. Despite all the intelligence and education of those house members, Islam still won.
Tell us please Mrs Merkel - how is it Germany is to deal with a growing population of Muslims that will similarly place Sharia, Allah's law, above Western reason? Are Germans just supposed to trust you? You do seem very confident when you tell the public that you know what you're doing.
Forgive me if I don't feel encouraged.
We are asked to rely on most Muslims being like Siti Mariah Mahmud, when it is plain that even in an established & "moderate" Islamic country such Muslims are overwhelmed by those who prioritise Sharia law. Mightn't monitoring mosques for orthodox preaching and funding from orthodox sources be a good place to start?
Below is the article and below that is a brief outline from Robert Spencer on a few authoritative sources explaining why child marriage is considered just fab in Islam.
KUALA LUMPUR - There is nothing wrong with a rape victim marrying the rapist, according to a Barisan Nasional lawmaker who even suggested that some nine-year-olds were "physically and spiritually" ready for marriage.
Tasek Gelugor MP Datuk Shabudin Yahaya, in trying to refute Dr Siti Mariah Mahmud (Amanah-Kota Raja), said that some 12- and 15-year-old girls looked older than their actual ages.
"When we discuss 12- and 15-year-olds, we don't see their physical bodies because some children aged 12 or 15, their bodies are like 18-year-old women," Shabudin told the Dewan Rakyat on Tuesday.
The former Syariah court judge added that some girls who reached puberty when they were as young as nine years old were "physically and spiritually" ready for marriage. "So it's not impossible for them to get married," Shabudin said, adding that there was "nothing wrong" with a rape victim marrying the rapist as it could serve as a "remedy" to the increasing number of social problems.
Shabudin said this when debating the Sexual Offences Against Children Bill 2017 after several Opposition lawmakers suggested amending it to include child marriages as an offence. He said that although rape is a criminal offence, the rapist and the victim should be "given a second chance to turn a new leaf in life". "Perhaps through marriage they can lead a healthier, better life. And the person who was raped does not necessarily have a bleak future. She will have a husband, at least, and this could serve as a remedy to growing social problems," he said.
Dr Siti Mariah, however, argued that allowing the rapist to marry the victim would not guarantee a better life. "I don't agree with marrying off the victim to the rapist. If the rapist repents, maybe that's fine, but what if the husband is 'haprak' (useless)?" she said.
Teo Nie Ching (DAP-Kulai) cited two cases of the victims marrying the attackers, and argued that the marriages ended up becoming more problematic, causing more hurt. She said that one of the cases involved a 35-year-old man in Negri Sembilan who married a 14-year-old with a disability after allegedly raping her. The man then reportedly raped his 11-year-old sister-in-law and forced his wife to film him committing the act.
Citing his experience as a judge, Shabudin, however, said that Teo should not generalise the issue as there have been many cases where such marriages did not end in divorce. "The girl becomes safer when she is married rather than when she is left alone. Don't assume they (rapists) remain bad people," he said.
Teo's motion to amend the Sexual Offences Against Children Bill to include child marriages as an offence was ultimately defeated by a voice vote.
Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:
“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.
Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.
Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:
The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”
According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.